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	NN

Thu, 3-Nov-16 11:54 AM (7 years ago)

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Seems like some good news on Brexit hey? Let's see the GBP rise now

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	EmuLater

Really? I've not put the news on yet today.

(7 years ago)

	NN

High court says it needs parliamentary approval

(7 years ago)

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	NN

Which I agree makes total sense

(7 years ago)

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	EmuLater

Agreed!

(7 years ago)

	NN

(Seeing it was so damn close that the public is basically in a stalemate)

(7 years ago)

	EmuLater

It was far too close to act directly on it. Many regretted their decision once the result was known.

(7 years ago)

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	LordRebellion

I don't hold a strong personal view on brexit either way. However, what was the whole point of the referendum if, as it turns out, meant fuck all. If the majority vote (of the people) ..

(7 years ago)

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	NN

Article I read says govt will appeal - but why would they?? Wasn't May in the "stay" camp anyway?

(7 years ago)

	NN

LR: it was too tight to make such a drastic change 0 if it was 60 leave 40 stay - then fair enough but it was too close to be statistically sound

(7 years ago)

	LordRebellion

Indicated that they (the people) wanted to leave the EU, then in a "democracy" shouldn't parliament reflect the will of the people?

(7 years ago)

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	NN

The issue is the "will" isnt clear when it's so close

(7 years ago)

	lynskey

exactly LR...the sooner we make the break,the better.

(7 years ago)

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	NN

the value of the pound has shown how much will there is against it

(7 years ago)

	LordRebellion

Well then, perhaps they should be very clear on what % it takes for a majority vote to count.

(7 years ago)

	NN

put it this way - if you took 10 brits in a room becuase you cant have a fraction of a person - 5 would say stay 5 would say leave - who is right??

(7 years ago)

	lynskey

the leaving bit was always going to be painful financially..

(7 years ago)

	NN

the referendum was a fail statisically and should have been re-run with a clear required difference of say 5 %age points

(7 years ago)

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	NN

Sanity is prevailing in the high court and that is a great thing for britain

(7 years ago)

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	EmuLater

Voters have admitted to voting leave to make a point. They did not expect it to actually happen.

(7 years ago)

	LordRebellion

That's anecdotal, NN. So is the value of the pound being "evidence" that people want to stay.

(7 years ago)

	lynskey

The main reasons for leaving were a) to stop the country becoming a satellite state of Europe and b) to get control of the borders again.

(7 years ago)

	NN

yes LR absolutely

(7 years ago)

	NN

Yes the borders drove the issue - and they can be addressed without a full brexit

(7 years ago)

	NN

Cameron fucked up massively bascially

(7 years ago)

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	lynskey

Nobody voted for being in the E.U......Common Market maybe..but categorically not the E.U.

(7 years ago)

	metalwork

We're had more control of our borders than most people realised

(7 years ago)

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	LordRebellion

The whole political spectrum of the EU has fucked yo massively, if we are to be honest about it all.

(7 years ago)

	NN

uk has way more control of its borders (being an island) than any other EU nation

(7 years ago)

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	NN

if blair and bush didnt invade iraq we wouldnt be in this mess - lets face it it is migration from middle east that is driving the fear

(7 years ago)

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	LordRebellion

* Fucked up.

(7 years ago)

	LordRebellion

Yes, however, under EU mandate, all borders of EU members were to be open.

(7 years ago)

	NN

yep and that was not fully thought out was it

(7 years ago)

	NN

noone foresaw millions of displaced arabs decending on EU

(7 years ago)

	NN

so the answer is - stick in EU for now - but with renewed border laws as the rest of eu is discussing now anyway

(7 years ago)

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	lynskey

true but I also believe there is an "island" mentality too but the facts are that nobody has a clue how many immigrants are here and the spectre of that quota being "imposed" set off alarm bells ..

(7 years ago)

	LordRebellion

I don't totally disagree with that statement, NN. However, the open migration into Europe is also by economic assylum seekers flowing out of Africa.

(7 years ago)

	NN

re-vist the brexit vote in 2 years time with the rule there must be a 5% difference at least

(7 years ago)

	NN

yes LR probably more economic migrants than anything else

(7 years ago)

	LordRebellion

Most of which .. or young single men. That's the crisis of it all that the media in Europe has gone to great lengths trying not to discuss.

(7 years ago)

	NN

western private interests need to invest in northern africa to make it a place they want to be

(7 years ago)

	lynskey

and stay in further limbo till 2018? naaaa..... a re-vote is not on the agenda.....everyone agrees that..

(7 years ago)

	NN

but the insecurties from corrupt govts make it a turn off for big business to venture there in any signifgant way

(7 years ago)

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	LordRebellion

most of which "are" ..

(7 years ago)

	NN

Fact is the world is overpopulated and these people need to go somewhere, there is only one earth and we are all citizens of it

(7 years ago)

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	NN

Education / religion and lack of birth control are the culprits underlying this unsustainable population growth in the middle east / north africa

(7 years ago)

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	NN

* and hence lack of birth control

(7 years ago)

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	lynskey

All makes sense ...

(7 years ago)

	EmuLater

What you doing running a website? Get to number 10!

(7 years ago)

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	lynskey

but the vote is cast...

(7 years ago)

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	NN

Thank goodnes for the independence of the judicial system

(7 years ago)

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	LordRebellion

NN, over population is not the reason millions are flooding into Europe. If we are in serious concern for the well being of others, then it would have been much more logical to put resources into .,

(7 years ago)

	LordRebellion

Helping those nations develop. Just think of the trillions of dollars being spent on constant conflicts around the world .. if we took just 3% of that sum, we could create a very different world.

(7 years ago)

	lynskey

its the chance of an escape from poverty / fighting and the lure of the western life style,with streets paved in gold.

(7 years ago)

	Propellors

Whats good about it, the electorate have spoken and cast there votes in a democratic vote which some people cant or refuse to accept.

(7 years ago)

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	lynskey

only time will tell if the decision / vote was good or not because nobody knows the outcome.

(7 years ago)

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	mermaid_hunter69

i saw a guy on the news who said he was voting to leave because he was sick of the polish section in the supermarket .... with idiots like that voting you are better off under a dictatorship

(7 years ago)

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	shaqila

I personally think it would be a shame if they stay in the EU. The Netherlands were just starting to follow their good example.

(7 years ago)

	Propellors

My goodness me NN which part of democracy do you not understand, in the UK we operate a first past the post system, MP's had a vote to run the referendum in the first place which they agreed to.

(7 years ago)

	Propellors

Since when has it been a case of wrong answer try again in the UK democratic system, this is typical of the unelected beurocrats running the EU

(7 years ago)

	Propellors

We voted to leave so we should trigger article 50 because it is what the Public voted for regardless of the margin

(7 years ago)

	mermaid_hunter69

as long as we can still have French Knickers in the UK I dont care what happens

(7 years ago)

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	metalwork

That's all well and good prop but not all the UK voted to leave

(7 years ago)

	Propellors

No metalwork but the Majority who took part did vote to leave, its how a democratic process works.

(7 years ago)

	metalwork

Sorry I should clarify, Scotland as a country did not vote to leave so we should be able to stay.

(7 years ago)

	lynskey

ah....but neither did London so.... do they stay too?

(7 years ago)

	metalwork

I kinda know what you mean Lyn but London is a city not a country.

(7 years ago)

	lynskey

but Scotland voted against independence from the U.K?

(7 years ago)

	lynskey

thats why Nicola Sturgeon was given very short shrift by the EU ..

(7 years ago)

	metalwork

because we were told it was the only way we could stay part of europe

(7 years ago)

	lynskey

its all a bloody mess tbh but do you think a second independence vote would go the other way now, hun?

(7 years ago)

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	metalwork

I wouldn't like to say and tbh I think the governments across the world are sending us all to hell in a hand basket.

(7 years ago)

	lynskey

all of this is why Cameron resigned,of course..

(7 years ago)

	Raven2005

We all had the vote and there were more votes to get out. This "50" think should have been started on the same day as the result. Now look at what a mess this is in.

(7 years ago)

	Raven2005

*thing

(7 years ago)