Sadly, The real guys won't help.
So what happens that if we try, we only suffer more as The monsters Corporations prevail..
And Trumpets going back to to the black stuff.

This all started many years ago, when a domino effect started of course..

It's probably far to late now.

Yes Raven, it is way too late. Only 12 years left so please say your prayers. Maybe China can help if you ask them. I wonder what caused the last ice age? Do you happen to know?

Wow, I am so glad that women didn`t cause climate change.

Worst floods in 300 years, worst heat in 280 years...

What many of us want to know is, what caused those problems hundreds of years ago? ... was it climate cycles? .. solar cycles? .. global fluctuations? ... or what?

The "Climate Change" agenda is being given a free pass, these days.

When someone posts a comment, worthy of a reply, I will

[b]TC knows nothing....{/b]

Joking

No you wern`t

Please don't tell him that Jennifer..


I wonder what these protests in London are actually proving?

Seems that what they are highlighting is being promoted in the wrong way..

What can we do, when the World's Big Guy's don't want to. ?

It's not a case of every little bit counts.

However, at least it brings the subject to mind...

How about a reduction of population? Could we start there? Maybe we can somehow contain the cow farts and put them to good use like burning the gas to heat homes. We only have 12 years Raven so we need to hurry. How about praying to God for help? He did give us free will to do that, no? Man started it so man can fix it while the women sit around and watch.

Too bad we did not know what the dinosaurs knew when they became extinct cause of climate change. I doubt that they could fix it so how are we supposed to?

Not too sure about the idea that DINO-FARTS caused their Global Warming...

Yep

Yeah, climate change -- global warming -- is fact. Deal with it.

A bigger problem than global warming, however, is worldwide food production. The population worldwide continues to grow exponentially while we have maybe 60-100 harvests left until the topsoil is gone.

That could be changed or altered possibly more easily than global warming, but it would take recognition of the problem to solve it -- and instead of recognising topsoil loss as a worldwide problem, everyone concentrates on global warming instead.

At last some sense!

Deforestation is hugely responsible for erosion , whole mountain sides have been stripped of their trees, whose roots and canopy protect the ground underneath, hence so many mudslides in 3rd world countries, you just can't rip out, cut down eons of growth without consequences.

I know, they will be complaining of global warming when they are starving! Too many people! They can`t grow the crops in the forests so S. America has been clearing them out.

They need to figure out hydroponics on a huge scale.

So, back to sensible replies

Climate change proponents and their stupidity about it.

What is it at issue with "climate change" is how to manage human progress on an economy of scale level and not this nonsense of how humanity is "causing" climate change. The sheer ignorance of CC proponents about the role that our planet the Earth plays in doing its own adjustments and readjustments is as pathetic as humans who will not accept that human activity can DISRUPT the climate process.

The questions before us as a species that is tasked with stewardship over our home is as follows.

1. How to have electricity on an economy of scale level from souces of energy that leave no trace of carbon emissions or any other pollutant. This will NOT be done by throwing up some wind farms or placing solar panels everywhere-although covering every desert in solar panels and every rooftop with one would help substantially. No, it will take scientific breakthroughs, yet to emerge, that can do the equivalent of or actually do nuclear FUSION. Our modern society must have electricity to maintain its current level of living and more but the CC proponents want us back in the Stone Age about advancement.

2. How to manufacture and produce an engine propulsion system for transportation in the modern and future age. A combustion engine, if you will, that does not operate on petroleum but on a fuel source that does not emit carbon pollutants. The transition to such a transportation system will take time, probably 50-60 years to phase out all petroleum-fueled engines but it has to be done at the economy of scale level. This transition is for automobiles, airplanes, trains, ships, and only space-faring ships getting out of orbit should need such fuel as we have now but even that is up for change too.

3. Never using a system of "carbon credits." This proposal does absolutely nothing to actually address emission outputs that harms the environment. Trading a "credit" on paper to allow for political bragging rights is not going to accomplish the needed goal of ending pollution as we know it.

4. The role of the education system. A global effort to educate elementary school age children on the importance of planetary stewardship and how to achieve it while continuing the modern advancement march is essential for conditioning the human species to be as ONE on the responsibility of the planet. Then it would carry over to middle school/junior high and high school-all secondary schools as one team on this subject.

5. Ending war. This will be the single greatest challenge to management of the planet's resources. A global system of governance all grounded in the American concept of federalism to ensure that all humans get a VOICE and say for WE THE PEOPLE is the only way forward with it. Humanity as a species must rise above linguistic and genotype constructions to see and act as what we are: the sole sentient species on the planet and perhaps in the universe. The "arms race" to build, maintain and employ weapons of war are either the main reason or a major reason behind the exploitation of physical resources within our planet. How to address humanity living as one species without the need for armed conflict will do more to address climate change than anything at all in any way of what some CC proponent claims. Perhaps taking the Christmas message of "peace on Earth and goodwill towards men" seriously will actually work????

6. Ending unrestrained exploitation of the planet's resources. This goal is not about ending use of the resources from our home but how to use and manage them accordingly. We need wood, for example, so are we replanting trees? Seriously, does anyone get that the American day set aside as Arbor Day is an example of how to address impact upon the Earth? Planting trees is as essential to fixing the planet as blood is for a human being to live, yes, really. We have to have scientific advancement but how we have it it is key. Innovation, please???

7. Clean up the waterways. Our species is at a point that we must come together as one and completely clean the oceans altogether completely, get rid of of all pollutants in it including removing ships that are in it at the bottom. Then clean up all rivers, streams and lakes and realize that all bodies of water are truly "sacred ground" not to ever be polluted. The previous mindset of just "dumping" it on the ocean must change to "never dumping ever" as well as other constructs that have been justified in the name of progress and/or profit.

8. Revise capitalism. The solution is NOT "socialism" but on a proper regulated system of capitalism that will allow for a balanced approach of how to go out and earn what you want/do what you want with how there is no impact to the planet with it. This really is the goal. Too much regulation is as bad as too little, knowing what we need and doing it is key.

9. Human constructs. Getting beyond the role of language, ethnicity, gender constructs, and most importantly currency is essential to building a society that will be stewards of our planet versus exploiting it. The "identity politics" horror that is continuing to play out globally is not the way forward but is a death march to tribalism and the subsequent consequences of such thinking. Creating the only identity that matters of being a human being is our way forward or death. It is that simple. Recognizing that all SEVEN BILLION of us are created in God's image and all are equal is the sole solution to bring us together in taking care of our planet, our home.

Do the above actions and "climate change" will be nothing more than a chapter in a history textbook.

I was agreeing with you right up to your last point, but I fixed it for you.

According to the bible, there was a flood far worse than anything that burning fossil fuels have cause. You all can stop using fossil fuels if you want. What is stopping you? Stop driving your cars. Stop plugging your phones and other electronic devices in to recharge. Stop eating, drinking and consuming things you buy at the supermarkets. The fact is, There is not enough surface area on our planet to put up wind or solar farms that would generate enough energy for us to survive on. What do you suggest we do? It is time to start exterminating humans? Your green pipe dream is just that.........a pipe dream. Are there things we can do to reduce emissions? Sure there are, and we are doing it. The air in North America is cleaner now than is has been in over 50 years yet the average temp of the earth continues to rise. Why? If we are reducing our emissions, shouldn't the trend be reversing? You know the sun has more to do with our climate change, whether it be warmer or colder, than any human activity ever could, right? There is scientific evidence to support that claim too. In fact, there is a shit ton more evidence to back that claim up than what there is that humans are causing any kind of global climate change. This being the first time humans have ever inhabited the planet, (that we know of) there is no data of past human activity to compare it to. There is, however, plenty of data that shows solar patterns, Co2 in rock formations, etc, etc, etc that give scientists a good idea of how the temp trends were as far back as you can imagine. You can go back to riding around in a horse and buggy if you want. I'll keep my SUV.

You mean like they do to erect those green energy windmill farms?

*sighs* Back to stupidity again

Huh? Stupidity? I live in Pennsylvania where there are lots of mountains. I see windmill farms on the tops of the mountains where they have clear cut the entire forest in order to put the fucking things up!!! You telling me that isn't causing soil erosion? I've also seen entire wetlands and forests destroyed to erect solar farms. Brilliant, just brilliant I tell ya.

https://aese.psu.edu/students/research/ced-urj/news/2016/wind-instead-the-implementation-and-usage-of-wind-generated-energy-in-pennsylvania

Analysis
"Generating wind energy is very “farmer friendly --very important in Pennsylvania -- because of the significant amount of rural and agricultural land. Wind turbines can be located directly on a farmer’s property without causing much disruption; the base of the turbine does not occupy too much land. The presence of wind turbines barely interferes with a farmer’s ability to grow crops or let their animals out to graze because the land can be used up to the base of the turbine. Wind energy is also ideal for Pennsylvania and its farmers because wind turbines also do not require water to function and thus results in less resource waste (U.S. Department of Energy)."

Gosh that was hard to find

Listen. I live here and as a truck driver of 26 years, I can tell you that there are far more windmill farms being located on the tops of mountains than that of farmland. I see it with my own eyes. I actually helped build some of the roads used to transport the turbines and blades to the sites. They clear cut thousands of acres of pristine forest in order to erect those damn things. Not to mention the big hole they are leaving in the ground where they mine the limestone for the roads.

I should have added that if you go west of Pennsylvania into the midwest states, they do set up windmill farms in the fields. Not like they have much choice. In PA, the mountains block a lot of the wind from ever reaching the farmlands in the valleys so they erect them on the tops of mountains which in turn, causes a lot of environmental harm. But it makes the green people feel all warm and fuzzy. That is what matters.

The biggest problem is that windmills built in the US are dangerously carcinogenic!

Typical NIMBY, and fuck the rest of you on the planet..

Not sure what that is supposed to mean. I guess this is what YOU would call an "intelligent" response?

NIMBY means Not in my back yard, and I don't give a shit about anyone else...

My problem with the people who argue against wind and solar energy is this: They take the position that :alternative energy source of choice: is ALSO harmful to the environment in some way, (the birds! the trees!) as justification for the continued use of the worse problem until a perfect solution is found.

That's like saying, don't use canvas grocery bags because the manufacturing process is just as harmful as plastic, so keep using the cheap, one-off plastic grocery bags until all reusable ones are made of hemp. It makes zero sense. There will never be a perfect solution, so why change anything at all? Let's all go out and buy 8 cylinder pickup trucks that get 10 miles to the gallon, rip the exhaust off, use cheap oil, and spew smoke everywhere. Cease all production of hybrids and stop researching electric cars, because the batteries are harmful. Progress is stupid.