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JackMasterOne
Women who think the man is suppoed to get them off
Okay, how many of us know women who will not masturbate, will not do anything but expect the man to get them off?

My ex-wife was better than porn in bed but she never masturbated and expected every bit of her sexual pleasure to come from me.

Are other women like that nowadays with how women fuck themselves?

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Okay, how many of us know women who will not masturbate, will not do anything but expect the man to get them off?
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What do you mean, "will not do anything"? Do you mean will not do anything in return to the man?
Not sure what you're asking are you saying she wants to fuck and you want her to masturbate so you don't have to fuck her?


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I expect the OP means women who will not engage in the play of sex, but who expect that sex will be "done" to them. Those women (in my view) have already given up.


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if i have a FB i expect him to get me off as i will get him off
if i wanna masturbate ill do that when hes not around
not sure Im getting the question tho?


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dildo In my past sexual experiences I have met only 3 women that did not masturbate. 1 Was very young and said she didn't know how, but after I gave her a few orgasms by using only my fingers she learned how .
The other 2 women I have no clue to this day if they do or not, but if not it's their loss.

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stevenasty said: Okay, how many of us know women who will not masturbate, will not do anything but expect the man to get them off?
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What do you mean, "will not do anything"? Do you mean will not do anything in return to the man?
Not sure what you're asking are you saying she wants to fuck and you want her to masturbate so you don't have to fuck her?



It just means that some women expect the man to be the one and reason that they get pleasure or climax. They may do plenty of stuff to the man but they put the onus of success all on the man for reaching orgasm.

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JackMasterOne said:
stevenasty said: Okay, how many of us know women who will not masturbate, will not do anything but expect the man to get them off?
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What do you mean, "will not do anything"? Do you mean will not do anything in return to the man?
Not sure what you're asking are you saying she wants to fuck and you want her to masturbate so you don't have to fuck her?



It just means that some women expect the man to be the one and reason that they get pleasure or climax. They may do plenty of stuff to the man but they put the onus of success all on the man for reaching orgasm.

im not seeing the problem here
she sucks you to cum
she fucks you to cum
shes a pornstar for you to cum
and she expect you to make her cum?
damn that woman...tsk


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My wife expects me to do the work to get her off. Ive bought her several toys, and she uses them when I work. But during sex she wont finger herself or use a vibe. I give her a reach around, I use the toys on her but she wont. I usually last 2 hours or more so its not hard to make her cum. Many times if she hasnt cum during a quickie she will ask for my mouth.
Its fair for her to expect me to make her cum, im expecting her to make me cum.

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Artistic said:
JackMasterOne said:
stevenasty said: Okay, how many of us know women who will not masturbate, will not do anything but expect the man to get them off?
_______________________________________________________

What do you mean, "will not do anything"? Do you mean will not do anything in return to the man?
Not sure what you're asking are you saying she wants to fuck and you want her to masturbate so you don't have to fuck her?



It just means that some women expect the man to be the one and reason that they get pleasure or climax. They may do plenty of stuff to the man but they put the onus of success all on the man for reaching orgasm.

im not seeing the problem here
she sucks you to cum
she fucks you to cum
shes a pornstar for you to cum
and she expect you to make her cum?
damn that woman...tsk




No, not saying that, let me try to elaborate.

I have known women who will let seduce them but they will only climax if the man gets them off. Then I have read about it and what I am talking about is that these women will not achieve an orgasm unless the man gets them off.

They will not masturbate during the sexual experience, they require either oral or penetration or some specific position and unless they get they are not able to climax. Then they blame the man for the fact that they are not cumming.

So, if a man goes down and does oral, or fingers the woman, or some other foreplay and gets her ready but then the man cums too soon or cannot maintain rigidity or just wants to get her off only what then?

A woman who demands that get sexual pleasure by another person is my focus and question.

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Artistic said:
JackMasterOne said:
stevenasty said: Okay, how many of us know women who will not masturbate, will not do anything but expect the man to get them off?
_______________________________________________________

What do you mean, "will not do anything"? Do you mean will not do anything in return to the man?
Not sure what you're asking are you saying she wants to fuck and you want her to masturbate so you don't have to fuck her?



It just means that some women expect the man to be the one and reason that they get pleasure or climax. They may do plenty of stuff to the man but they put the onus of success all on the man for reaching orgasm.

im not seeing the problem here
she sucks you to cum
she fucks you to cum
shes a pornstar for you to cum
and she expect you to make her cum?
damn that woman...tsk




No, not saying that, let me try to elaborate.

I have known women who will let seduce them but they will only climax if the man gets them off. Then I have read about it and what I am talking about is that these women will not achieve an orgasm unless the man gets them off.

They will not masturbate during the sexual experience, they require either oral or penetration or some specific position and unless they get they are not able to climax. Then they blame the man for the fact that they are not cumming.

So, if a man goes down and does oral, or fingers the woman, or some other foreplay and gets her ready but then the man cums too soon or cannot maintain rigidity or just wants to get her off only what then?

A woman who demands that get sexual pleasure by another person is my focus and question.

ok now you changed to blame him
every person is responsible for their own orgasm
achieved by themselves or by another person
i do not come easy by another person
i get off by my self in 2 minutes
i get my men off several times during sex
i enjoy sex
i wouldnt blame a guy
few guys have the patiens/stamina to give me the time i need
i kinda accepted the fact
i am over the moon when i find a guy that with hands/mouth make me cum
and i have used vibes during intercourse
we are different


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My wife is intensely sexual and sensual...and quite submissive (during sex).

She can cum in 30 seconds from penetration, and then cum for hours--20, 30, or more orgasms.

In fact she's so quick that she rarely experienced foreplay before we met...every guy (or girl) got her instantly aroused (and she's noisy so it's easy to tell LOL) and quickly started fucking her (often at her insistent request).

Funny thing is she ADORES being touched...like a cat. But when every partner feels like they're an instant stud, she came a lot but still missed something. I love to explore a woman's body and when I made her wait the first time it was a surprise...but now she's grown rather fond of foreplay.

Since she's a sub, she will touch herself as ordered and puts on quite a performance...or touch a partner in most any way ordered, with spectacular results.

Oral takes her a long time, but the single orgasm she experiences is so intense and she tastes so delicious that I beg her to let me get comfortable and take all the time she needs.

We're in the LS, so we also play with others (into GB's lately, so many others sometimes). Everyone works to get everyone off, no problem!

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Artistic said:
JackMasterOne said:
Artistic said:
JackMasterOne said:
stevenasty said: Okay, how many of us know women who will not masturbate, will not do anything but expect the man to get them off?
_______________________________________________________

What do you mean, "will not do anything"? Do you mean will not do anything in return to the man?
Not sure what you're asking are you saying she wants to fuck and you want her to masturbate so you don't have to fuck her?



It just means that some women expect the man to be the one and reason that they get pleasure or climax. They may do plenty of stuff to the man but they put the onus of success all on the man for reaching orgasm.

im not seeing the problem here
she sucks you to cum
she fucks you to cum
shes a pornstar for you to cum
and she expect you to make her cum?
damn that woman...tsk




No, not saying that, let me try to elaborate.

I have known women who will let seduce them but they will only climax if the man gets them off. Then I have read about it and what I am talking about is that these women will not achieve an orgasm unless the man gets them off.

They will not masturbate during the sexual experience, they require either oral or penetration or some specific position and unless they get they are not able to climax. Then they blame the man for the fact that they are not cumming.

So, if a man goes down and does oral, or fingers the woman, or some other foreplay and gets her ready but then the man cums too soon or cannot maintain rigidity or just wants to get her off only what then?

A woman who demands that get sexual pleasure by another person is my focus and question.

ok now you changed to blame him
every person is responsible for their own orgasm
achieved by themselves or by another person
i do not come easy by another person
i get off by my self in 2 minutes
i get my men off several times during sex
i enjoy sex
i wouldnt blame a guy
few guys have the patiens/stamina to give me the time i need
i kinda accepted the fact
i am over the moon when i find a guy that with hands/mouth make me cum
and i have used vibes during intercourse
we are different




No, WE are the same as I agree with all that you wrote. My op and clarifications are regarding women who see the man as their source of pleasure only, will not masturbate, and may make other demands regarding positions, so forth. There is a lot of women out there like that even in 2017 but I agree with what you wrote and personally feel that is how women should be too.

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My wife does not masterbate AT ALL!
I have never seen her touch herself vagina,clit or boobs during sex or foreplay. Sometimes I am at a total loss as to what or if she is enjoying anything sexual. It is very frustrating. I've bought all of the sex toys, choose when to use them, choose the positions and choose when we have sex or when to stop. sad confused Never been given a suggestion on what to use,how to use it,when to stop/go etc.etc. Sometimes I can tell when she is enjoying herself but I never get a suggestion to repeat anything. I go down on her atleast twice a week. Most times I think she cums but don't know for sure. She usually pushes my head away when shes had enough. I truly wish she would grab my head and force my face into her pussy. I have bought half cup bras,thigh high stockings and thongs telling her how sexy she looks and how turned on seeing her in them is and they gather dust in her drawer after one use. I don't think she expects anything. She just doesn't communicate very well. She is very reluctant to learn how to please me, most times I have to show her or ask. Most anything out of the ordinary she refuses to think about. I bought a strap-on and harness and when I told her about it she stopped me in mid sentance and said no way. But she sure enjoys alittle rimming I think! Tough,tough gal to figure out

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It just means that some women expect the man to be the one and reason that they get pleasure or climax. They may do plenty of stuff to the man but they put the onus of success all on the man for reaching orgasm.quote from op


No, not saying that, let me try to elaborate.

I have known women who will let seduce them but they will only climax if the man gets them off. Then I have read about it and what I am talking about is that these women will not achieve an orgasm unless the man gets them off.

They will not masturbate during the sexual experience, they require either oral or penetration or some specific position and unless they get they are not able to climax. Then they blame the man for the fact that they are not cumming.

So, if a man goes down and does oral, or fingers the woman, or some other foreplay and gets her ready but then the man cums too soon or cannot maintain rigidity or just wants to get her off only what then?

A woman who demands that get sexual pleasure by another person is my focus and question. quote from OP

No, WE are the same as I agree with all that you wrote. My op and clarifications are regarding women who see the man as their source of pleasure only, will not masturbate, and may make other demands regarding positions, so forth. There is a lot of women out there like that even in 2017 but I agree with what you wrote and personally feel that is how women should be too. quote from OP
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I kept thinking I must be misunderstanding you but you're actually saying a woman shouldn't expect more from you/men even if you have premature ejaculation or can't get hard enough for penetration she should masturbate herself and not rely on the man to get her off if she doesn't orgasm as quickly as the man. omg, My wife says you sound like her ex husband and when she told him she expected more he'd call her a whore.
I don't agree with you at all, it's my responsibility to provide my lips, tongue, fingers, cock, vibrator, dildo or anything she requests to give her sexual pleasure and as long as she knows what she wants I'm excited to provide it, no rush from me I love long drawn out sex.

(and I get anything I want from her in return, sounds fair to me)


cool

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stevenasty said: It just means that some women expect the man to be the one and reason that they get pleasure or climax. They may do plenty of stuff to the man but they put the onus of success all on the man for reaching orgasm.quote from op


No, not saying that, let me try to elaborate.

I have known women who will let seduce them but they will only climax if the man gets them off. Then I have read about it and what I am talking about is that these women will not achieve an orgasm unless the man gets them off.

They will not masturbate during the sexual experience, they require either oral or penetration or some specific position and unless they get they are not able to climax. Then they blame the man for the fact that they are not cumming.

So, if a man goes down and does oral, or fingers the woman, or some other foreplay and gets her ready but then the man cums too soon or cannot maintain rigidity or just wants to get her off only what then?

A woman who demands that get sexual pleasure by another person is my focus and question. quote from OP

No, WE are the same as I agree with all that you wrote. My op and clarifications are regarding women who see the man as their source of pleasure only, will not masturbate, and may make other demands regarding positions, so forth. There is a lot of women out there like that even in 2017 but I agree with what you wrote and personally feel that is how women should be too. quote from OP
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I kept thinking I must be misunderstanding you but you're actually saying a woman shouldn't expect more from you/men even if you have premature ejaculation or can't get hard enough for penetration she should masturbate herself and not rely on the man to get her off if she doesn't orgasm as quickly as the man. omg, My wife says you sound like her ex husband and when she told him she expected more he'd call her a whore.
I don't agree with you at all, it's my responsibility to provide my lips, tongue, fingers, cock, vibrator, dildo or anything she requests to give her sexual pleasure and as long as she knows what she wants I'm excited to provide it, no rush from me I love long drawn out sex.

(and I get anything I want from her in return, sounds fair to me)


cool


I agree in the "providing" stuff but my point is that many women expect the man to get them without them doing anything in return or if they do not get pleasure or a climax it is all the man's fault. While many women are not like that there are many who are and I am only focusing on those women.



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stevenasty said: It just means that some women expect the man to be the one and reason that they get pleasure or climax. They may do plenty of stuff to the man but they put the onus of success all on the man for reaching orgasm.quote from op


No, not saying that, let me try to elaborate.

I have known women who will let seduce them but they will only climax if the man gets them off. Then I have read about it and what I am talking about is that these women will not achieve an orgasm unless the man gets them off.

They will not masturbate during the sexual experience, they require either oral or penetration or some specific position and unless they get they are not able to climax. Then they blame the man for the fact that they are not cumming.

So, if a man goes down and does oral, or fingers the woman, or some other foreplay and gets her ready but then the man cums too soon or cannot maintain rigidity or just wants to get her off only what then?

A woman who demands that get sexual pleasure by another person is my focus and question. quote from OP

No, WE are the same as I agree with all that you wrote. My op and clarifications are regarding women who see the man as their source of pleasure only, will not masturbate, and may make other demands regarding positions, so forth. There is a lot of women out there like that even in 2017 but I agree with what you wrote and personally feel that is how women should be too. quote from OP
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I kept thinking I must be misunderstanding you but you're actually saying a woman shouldn't expect more from you/men even if you have premature ejaculation or can't get hard enough for penetration she should masturbate herself and not rely on the man to get her off if she doesn't orgasm as quickly as the man. omg, My wife says you sound like her ex husband and when she told him she expected more he'd call her a whore.
I don't agree with you at all, it's my responsibility to provide my lips, tongue, fingers, cock, vibrator, dildo or anything she requests to give her sexual pleasure and as long as she knows what she wants I'm excited to provide it, no rush from me I love long drawn out sex.

(and I get anything I want from her in return, sounds fair to me)


cool


I agree in the "providing" stuff but my point is that many women expect the man to get them without them doing anything in return or if they do not get pleasure or a climax it is all the man's fault. While many women are not like that there are many who are and I am only focusing on those women.







Why do you want to focus on them, I must be missing the point, wouldn't you want to avoid sex with someone that wasn't what you consider, good at it? Usually a "one nite stand" is because at least one of them wasn't impressed with the sex.

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merc41 said: My wife does not masterbate AT ALL!
I have never seen her touch herself vagina,clit or boobs during sex or foreplay. Sometimes I am at a total loss as to what or if she is enjoying anything sexual. It is very frustrating. I've bought all of the sex toys, choose when to use them, choose the positions and choose when we have sex or when to stop. sad confused Never been given a suggestion on what to use,how to use it,when to stop/go etc.etc. Sometimes I can tell when she is enjoying herself but I never get a suggestion to repeat anything. I go down on her atleast twice a week. Most times I think she cums but don't know for sure. She usually pushes my head away when shes had enough. I truly wish she would grab my head and force my face into her pussy. I have bought half cup bras,thigh high stockings and thongs telling her how sexy she looks and how turned on seeing her in them is and they gather dust in her drawer after one use. I don't think she expects anything. She just doesn't communicate very well. She is very reluctant to learn how to please me, most times I have to show her or ask. Most anything out of the ordinary she refuses to think about. I bought a strap-on and harness and when I told her about it she stopped me in mid sentance and said no way. But she sure enjoys alittle rimming I think! Tough,tough gal to figure out

I'm sure I married your wife's twin! Don't/won't masturbate! No idea how to make herself cum, but I'M supposed to, without any input or feedback from her! Lady's, we've got balls, but their NOT crystal! SAY what you want & any good man will do his best to give it to you! I never got this, so she basicly became a self lubricating masturbation sleeve for me.

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i dont know how old your wifes are,
but there was many women thought in my parents age
and even my age
that no masturbating. not being a slut in bed
these things are taped in the brain of some
tried talking to professionel?

and Jack when i said we are different i meant people in general
we just like different things
you cant change people only they can


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stevenasty said:
JackMasterOne said:
stevenasty said: It just means that some women expect the man to be the one and reason that they get pleasure or climax. They may do plenty of stuff to the man but they put the onus of success all on the man for reaching orgasm.quote from op


No, not saying that, let me try to elaborate.

I have known women who will let seduce them but they will only climax if the man gets them off. Then I have read about it and what I am talking about is that these women will not achieve an orgasm unless the man gets them off.

They will not masturbate during the sexual experience, they require either oral or penetration or some specific position and unless they get they are not able to climax. Then they blame the man for the fact that they are not cumming.

So, if a man goes down and does oral, or fingers the woman, or some other foreplay and gets her ready but then the man cums too soon or cannot maintain rigidity or just wants to get her off only what then?

A woman who demands that get sexual pleasure by another person is my focus and question. quote from OP

No, WE are the same as I agree with all that you wrote. My op and clarifications are regarding women who see the man as their source of pleasure only, will not masturbate, and may make other demands regarding positions, so forth. There is a lot of women out there like that even in 2017 but I agree with what you wrote and personally feel that is how women should be too. quote from OP
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I kept thinking I must be misunderstanding you but you're actually saying a woman shouldn't expect more from you/men even if you have premature ejaculation or can't get hard enough for penetration she should masturbate herself and not rely on the man to get her off if she doesn't orgasm as quickly as the man. omg, My wife says you sound like her ex husband and when she told him she expected more he'd call her a whore.
I don't agree with you at all, it's my responsibility to provide my lips, tongue, fingers, cock, vibrator, dildo or anything she requests to give her sexual pleasure and as long as she knows what she wants I'm excited to provide it, no rush from me I love long drawn out sex.

(and I get anything I want from her in return, sounds fair to me)


cool


I agree in the "providing" stuff but my point is that many women expect the man to get them without them doing anything in return or if they do not get pleasure or a climax it is all the man's fault. While many women are not like that there are many who are and I am only focusing on those women.







Why do you want to focus on them, I must be missing the point, wouldn't you want to avoid sex with someone that wasn't what you consider, good at it? Usually a "one nite stand" is because at least one of them wasn't impressed with the sex.



The point is what do you do when the woman puts all of the onus of HER sexual pleasure on it being that the man does it for her? Now I am not talking about mutual activity or getting the woman ready but of how some women will expect 100% of the work to be done by the man and if the woman fails to climax it is all the man's fault. I have been with women like even as I have been with many who are never like that but those women are of interest because what woman in 2017 thinks like that?????

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marriedbi52 said:
merc41 said: My wife does not masterbate AT ALL!
I have never seen her touch herself vagina,clit or boobs during sex or foreplay. Sometimes I am at a total loss as to what or if she is enjoying anything sexual. It is very frustrating. I've bought all of the sex toys, choose when to use them, choose the positions and choose when we have sex or when to stop. sad confused Never been given a suggestion on what to use,how to use it,when to stop/go etc.etc. Sometimes I can tell when she is enjoying herself but I never get a suggestion to repeat anything. I go down on her atleast twice a week. Most times I think she cums but don't know for sure. She usually pushes my head away when shes had enough. I truly wish she would grab my head and force my face into her pussy. I have bought half cup bras,thigh high stockings and thongs telling her how sexy she looks and how turned on seeing her in them is and they gather dust in her drawer after one use. I don't think she expects anything. She just doesn't communicate very well. She is very reluctant to learn how to please me, most times I have to show her or ask. Most anything out of the ordinary she refuses to think about. I bought a strap-on and harness and when I told her about it she stopped me in mid sentance and said no way. But she sure enjoys alittle rimming I think! Tough,tough gal to figure out

I'm sure I married your wife's twin! Don't/won't masturbate! No idea how to make herself cum, but I'M supposed to, without any input or feedback from her! Lady's, we've got balls, but their NOT crystal! SAY what you want & any good man will do his best to give it to you! I never got this, so she basicly became a self lubricating masturbation sleeve for me.



The above is an excellent elucidation of my point in the OP. thumbup

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i will wear costumes, i will be whomever he desires, i love to act! I will let a man do almost anything to me in order to get his orgasm. And by let, i mean my body is available, whether i like it or not if he is man enough to do it, i concede. I had a guy enamored with my mother, so i dressed in her clothes, answered to her name and let him fuck my brains out listening to him scream her name as he came in me. Ive had a bf who liked to insert himself in me, then tell me what a bad girl i have been and use his belt on my ass. the spasms in my muscles when he whipped me made him cum, he never moved. I have been peed on, peed in, and peed on men. I have no issue pushing my finger in a mans ass and rubbing his prostate when i give him head, just to make him cum.
Pardon me then if i am wrong for expecting the man to make me cum with no effort from me. If i tell a guy to make me cum, i dont want to hear "how?" i simply want him to tear off my clothes and get to work! I have a clit, you know where it is? Then start working on it! If i whimper its too hard, if i moan you got it right, if i grab your head and fuck your face you nailed it! I mean when a guy wants to cum he has no problem tossing me to the bed and shoving a cock in me anyway he wants, then why cant he throw me down and make me cum when i need it? Make me cum, figure it out, or dont expect me to repay you down the road and make you cum. I do like to lay still, legs spread wide, eyes closed, and just focus on the guys tongue, or how many fingers i feel in me, how stretched i am, how good it feels, i dont want to speak unless its in the throes of orgasm!

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spinstergal said: i will wear costumes, i will be whomever he desires, i love to act! I will let a man do almost anything to me in order to get his orgasm. And by let, i mean my body is available, whether i like it or not if he is man enough to do it, i concede. I had a guy enamored with my mother, so i dressed in her clothes, answered to her name and let him fuck my brains out listening to him scream her name as he came in me. Ive had a bf who liked to insert himself in me, then tell me what a bad girl i have been and use his belt on my ass. the spasms in my muscles when he whipped me made him cum, he never moved. I have been peed on, peed in, and peed on men. I have no issue pushing my finger in a mans ass and rubbing his prostate when i give him head, just to make him cum.
Pardon me then if i am wrong for expecting the man to make me cum with no effort from me. If i tell a guy to make me cum, i dont want to hear "how?" i simply want him to tear off my clothes and get to work! I have a clit, you know where it is? Then start working on it! If i whimper its too hard, if i moan you got it right, if i grab your head and fuck your face you nailed it! I mean when a guy wants to cum he has no problem tossing me to the bed and shoving a cock in me anyway he wants, then why cant he throw me down and make me cum when i need it? Make me cum, figure it out, or dont expect me to repay you down the road and make you cum. I do like to lay still, legs spread wide, eyes closed, and just focus on the guys tongue, or how many fingers i feel in me, how stretched i am, how good it feels, i dont want to speak unless its in the throes of orgasm!




My kind of WOMAN!!

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marriedbi52 said:
merc41 said: My wife does not masterbate AT ALL!
I have never seen her touch herself vagina,clit or boobs during sex or foreplay. Sometimes I am at a total loss as to what or if she is enjoying anything sexual. It is very frustrating. I've bought all of the sex toys, choose when to use them, choose the positions and choose when we have sex or when to stop. sad confused Never been given a suggestion on what to use,how to use it,when to stop/go etc.etc. Sometimes I can tell when she is enjoying herself but I never get a suggestion to repeat anything. I go down on her atleast twice a week. Most times I think she cums but don't know for sure. She usually pushes my head away when shes had enough. I truly wish she would grab my head and force my face into her pussy. I have bought half cup bras,thigh high stockings and thongs telling her how sexy she looks and how turned on seeing her in them is and they gather dust in her drawer after one use. I don't think she expects anything. She just doesn't communicate very well. She is very reluctant to learn how to please me, most times I have to show her or ask. Most anything out of the ordinary she refuses to think about. I bought a strap-on and harness and when I told her about it she stopped me in mid sentance and said no way. But she sure enjoys alittle rimming I think! Tough,tough gal to figure out

I'm sure I married your wife's twin! Don't/won't masturbate! No idea how to make herself cum, but I'M supposed to, without any input or feedback from her! Lady's, we've got balls, but their NOT crystal! SAY what you want & any good man will do his best to give it to you! I never got this, so she basicly became a self lubricating masturbation sleeve for me.


Same here. I'm sure this is what a lot of men have to deal with. I don't ask her to make me cum, just let me to the driving and I can cum very quickly. Even if I don't do the driving, I cum pretty fast. She on the other hand has never cum with anyone touching her. Had 10 other partners before me. Used to masturbate only occasionally, last time was 20 years ago. She gave up. As much as I've offered to do anything she wants, let her do anything she wants (include sleep with anyone she wants if it will help), taken her to a sex therapist, threatened divorce, can't be fixed and she doesn't care. She just goes along with sex and seems to get little or nothing out of it mentally or physically.

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